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I think this would be appropriate :P

 

Marijuana doesn't harm lung function, study found

 

By LINDSEY TANNER

AP Medical Writer

 

CHICAGO (AP) -- Smoking a joint once a week or a bit more apparently doesn't harm the lungs, suggests a 20-year study that bolsters evidence that marijuana doesn't do the kind of damage tobacco does.

 

The results, from one of the largest and longest studies on the health effects of marijuana, are hazier for heavy users - those who smoke two or more joints daily for several years. The data suggest that using marijuana that often might cause a decline in lung function, but there weren't enough heavy users among the 5,000 young adults in the study to draw firm conclusions.

 

Still, the authors recommended "caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered."

 

Marijuana is an illegal drug under federal law although some states allow its use for medical purposes.

 

The study by researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, and the University of Alabama at Birmingham was released Tuesday by the Journal of the American Medical Association.

 

The findings echo results in some smaller studies that showed while marijuana contains some of the same toxic chemicals as tobacco, it does not carry the same risks for lung disease.

 

It's not clear why that is so, but it's possible that the main active ingredient in marijuana, a chemical known as THC, makes the difference. THC causes the "high" that users feel. It also helps fight inflammation and may counteract the effects of more irritating chemicals in the drug, said Dr. Donald Tashkin, a marijuana researcher and an emeritus professor of medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles. Tashkin was not involved in the new study.

 

Study co-author Dr. Stefan Kertesz said there are other aspects of marijuana that may help explain the results.

 

Unlike cigarette smokers, marijuana users tend to breathe in deeply when they inhale a joint, which some researchers think might strengthen lung tissue. But the common lung function tests used in the study require the same kind of deep breathing that marijuana smokers are used to, so their good test results might partly reflect lots of practice, said Kertesz, a drug abuse researcher and preventive medicine specialist at the Alabama university.

 

The study authors analyzed data from participants in a 20-year federally funded health study in young adults that began in 1985. Their analysis was funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

 

The study randomly enrolled 5,115 men and women aged 18 through 30 in four cities: Birmingham, Chicago, Oakland, Calif., and Minneapolis. Roughly equal numbers of blacks and whites took part, but no other minorities. Participants were periodically asked about recent marijuana or cigarette use and had several lung function tests during the study.

 

Overall, about 37 percent reported at least occasional marijuana use, and most users also reported having smoked cigarettes; 17 percent of participants said they'd smoked cigarettes but not marijuana. Those results are similar to national estimates.

 

On average, cigarette users smoked about 9 cigarettes daily, while average marijuana use was only a joint or two a few times a month - typical for U.S. marijuana users, Kertesz said.

 

The authors calculated the effects of tobacco and marijuana separately, both in people who used only one or the other, and in people who used both. They also considered other factors that could influence lung function, including air pollution in cities studied.

 

The analyses showed pot didn't appear to harm lung function, but cigarettes did. Cigarette smokers' test scores worsened steadily during the study. Smoking marijuana as often as one joint daily for seven years, or one joint weekly for 20 years was not linked with worse scores. Very few study participants smoked more often than that.

 

Like cigarette smokers, marijuana users can develop throat irritation and coughs, but the study didn't focus on those. It also didn't examine lung cancer, but other studies haven't found any definitive link between marijuana use and cancer.

 

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Online:

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National Institute on Drug Abuse: http://www.nida.nih.gov

 

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see they have proof that its not bad why fight to keep it away from people plus it will bring in money witch they can use to fight the other drugs and other stuff but we all know it would get fucked up cuzz our GOV sucks mass amount of cock!!

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The reason it is banned is cause the tobacco comp. had a little cry cause it was shittin g on them sales wise. Its noy bad for you ( well its better then tobbaco anyway) all thatbhappened was the big wigs coulbnt keep up

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You can have around 5-10 grams here without getting arrested and a single plant.

There are no shops that sell it but you can still easily find it, the price hasn't changed since it's only legal for personal consumption so there are no taxes involved.

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not sure how true this is, but seen it on the news

 

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/austr ... rs/897105/

 

i know taht there is HEAPs of aussies taht do smoke weed, our laws are a slap on the hand here in SA, we are known for being Drug cap of Aus, lol

This doesn't surprise me at all since like.. almost all of Australia is a giant beach town lol. I need to visit Australia.. I'm sure I'd have tons of fun..

 

 

You can have around 5-10 grams here without getting arrested and a single plant.

There are no shops that sell it but you can still easily find it, the price hasn't changed since it's only legal for personal consumption so there are no taxes involved.

Depending on the state (California) You can carry up to an ounce of medical grade and you can have up to 9 or 12 plants, forget how much.. just need to get a medical marijuana card for $75 and you're set.

And they will basically give it to you for just about anything, insomnia, migraines, cramps for girls (or Troxell hehehe) muscle pains, glaucoma, you name it - they will probably give you a card..

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75$ seems kinda steep.

consider it a tax for legally being able to do something illegal..

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I consider it a rip off for making something awesome illegal just because they can and not because it actually does any harm, and even if it did it's still no excuse ahem cigarettes and alcohol ahem.

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I consider it a rip off for making something awesome illegal just because they can and not because it actually does any harm, and even if it did it's still no excuse ahem cigarettes and alcohol ahem.

Welcome to just about every 1st world country besides the Netherlands...

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I love it how we live in a free world in which we are free to do whatever we want withing the confines of whatever we are allowed and told to do.

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I feel your pain GoDuck.. we understand each others frustrations..

that's why I created THIS thread! :)

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smokin weed and playing online games is got to be one of the best things, when we played GRAW it felt like it was in slow mo and u can just Destroy everyone in ur path, god i miss those days

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Yeah this a good thread always get people going with the great weed debate.

 

Personally I have smoked it for over twenty years almost every day and had no dramas just the occasional whitie (not good) . I have a successful business great family and great life in the keeping up with the jones conventional sense.

I do however think its got some problems I have known friends who cant handle it makes em get depressed and stuff and real lazy just sit around and waste there life. Also I know that if you are predisposed to get schizophrenia weed can mess you up and actually start the disease.

Also weed is deffo gateway drug I did everything because I had tried weed but I think that may have something to do with the people you have to get weed off they always have some pills, acid,coke etc lying around for you to try.

 

So should weed be legal yeah I reckon it should, do I want my son to smoke it when he is older actually I don't, but I think people should be able to make there own decision, and I know from experience and common sense that the occasional spliff is way safer than smoking twenty a day or knocking back a six pack.

And thats my thoughts for now, but if you want to hear some pretty cool thoughts on weed by someone I suggest getting hold of some Bill Hicks standup that guy is funny and clever and tells you how its is.

 

Lee

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Yeah this a good thread always get people going with the great weed debate.

 

Personally I have smoked it for over twenty years almost every day and had no dramas just the occasional whitie (not good) . I have a successful business great family and great life in the keeping up with the jones conventional sense.

I do however think its got some problems I have known friends who cant handle it makes em get depressed and stuff and real lazy just sit around and waste there life. Also I know that if you are predisposed to get schizophrenia weed can mess you up and actually start the disease.

Also weed is deffo gateway drug I did everything because I had tried weed but I think that may have something to do with the people you have to get weed off they always have some pills, acid,coke etc lying around for you to try.

 

So should weed be legal yeah I reckon it should, do I want my son to smoke it when he is older actually I don't, but I think people should be able to make there own decision, and I know from experience and common sense that the occasional spliff is way safer than smoking twenty a day or knocking back a six pack.

And thats my thoughts for now, but if you want to hear some pretty cool thoughts on weed by someone I suggest getting hold of some Bill Hicks standup that guy is funny and clever and tells you how its is.

 

Lee

 

yes completely true, i watched some documentary about weed like 6 months ago and they was this dude that said when he smoked weed he could speak to jesus, god and all that kinda crap, it was all fucked up, then he got taken to a shrink and they said he had all these conditions and weed was the cause of it, but they did say he was predisposed to it, weed just unlocked it in a way

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Yeah this a good thread always get people going with the great weed debate.

 

Personally I have smoked it for over twenty years almost every day and had no dramas just the occasional whitie (not good) .

What is a whitie?

 

I have a successful business great family and great life in the keeping up with the jones conventional sense.

I do however think its got some problems I have known friends who cant handle it makes em get depressed and stuff and real lazy just sit around and waste there life. Also I know that if you are predisposed to get schizophrenia weed can mess you up and actually start the disease.

Also weed is deffo gateway drug I did everything because I had tried weed but I think that may have something to do with the people you have to get weed off they always have some pills, acid,coke etc lying around for you to try.

Yea, I know what you mean about the lazy part, helps with insomnia though, works like a charm.

And I think the whole gateway drug is kind bs.. if you are open to doing any drugs, then you have about the same chances of doing others, doesn't matter what you start with - you made the choice to do drugs already.. and really it's not a choice to do drugs, it's a choice to break the law.. I know a person who actually did E before he smoked weed - we'll call him.. "comrade" -^v^- and he sets his own rules, don't shove anything up your nose (or ass for that matter) and don't inject anything in your veins. Works out fine for him.

 

So should weed be legal yeah I reckon it should, do I want my son to smoke it when he is older actually I don't, but I think people should be able to make there own decision, and I know from experience and common sense that the occasional spliff is way safer than smoking twenty a day or knocking back a six pack.

Agreed, here. It's a plant and ultimately, people should be able to make the choice on whether they want to do it or not.. government has no business in this affair..

 

And thats my thoughts for now, but if you want to hear some pretty cool thoughts on weed by someone I suggest getting hold of some Bill Hicks standup that guy is funny and clever and tells you how its is.

 

Lee

I'll have to check him out :stoned:

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